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BP and the government decided that millions of gallons of dispersants should be dumped into the Gulf to sink and hide the oil.
They succeeded in sinking it. As ABC, CBS and NPR note, huge quantities of oil are blanketing the ocean floor, killing virtually all of the sealife which lives there.
And giant new underwater plumes have been found in the water column itself.
But officials don't want to hear about them. As one member of the oil spill recovery team said:
“My biggest concern is there’s [a plume of oil] five miles by 30 miles out there that was reported and no one responded. The Coast Guard said for days that they wanted to run tests, and if they don’t test it when it’s called in, they’ll never find it”
But didn't the oil-eating microbes eat alot of the oil? No ... they mainly ate gas.
And the oil is not staying underwater.
Oil is suddenly emerging in many parts of the Gulf.Oil "patties", 1 to 3 inches across, have been discovered floating along the seawall in Alabama.
16 miles of beaches in Louisiana have been hit. And scientists say that the oil will arise and wash ashore in pulses, and will hit sensitive areas like coastal marshes.
While the government denies that they are connected with the oil spill, there have been massive fishkills in Louisiana (and see this). Oil can be seen at fishkill sites (and see this), and the EPA has discovered high levels of nickel near the biggest fishkill. There have also been kills of starfish and other sea animals, including whales and dolphins:
The dipersant and oil combination will kill in the same way and will also appear as depleted oxygen.Seems to be very convenient,if you ask me.Just so people don't think I'm pulling their legs,here's what the science says.
Chemicals in dispersants, including surfactants, detergents and others, can damage the lungs of mammals and birds. The gills of fish can become covered with a film that prevents them from breathing. Crude oil chemical ingredients and dispersants both cause damage independently and in combination.
Characteristics of micelles may make it very difficult to identify oil in the water, since the oil-filled micelles do not appear as the standard oil sheen on the water. They may be below the surface and not be detectible by sight or smell. This can create an invisible hazard
What better way to hide the damage and death,than a chemical that mimicks naturally occuring fish kills?I'm sure they never considered that.
no, the question is why aren't more Americans, and others......... enraged!
no, the question is why aren't more Americans, and others......... enraged!
Because the President has already told us the oil was dispersed, skimmed or burned and the problem is under control. The last thing the President or the oil industry desires is Americans demanding the oil actually be cleaned up. The media has toed the party line from day one. They will not rock that boat now.
The media didn't object when the Feds restricted public and media access to parks. They didn't even object when the Feds privatized the largest environmental disaster in the nation's history. The story is that BP handled their job well, the Feds commanded the operation and provided effective oversight of BP. Many Americans may of questioned BP's handling of this event but the President and most of the media never did.
If people really questioned what was done, likely the oil under the surface will be discovered to have come from all the other leaking wells. Maybe I'm a cynic but the media seemed to run the story of all the other leaking wells when the questions about where the oil went to started being asked.
So who's fault is the underwater oil? The Feds that commanded this event? BP that controlled this event? Or neither?
no, the question is why aren't more Americans, and others......... enraged!
FreeBird, Yes why aren't more people enraged? What's happening to Greenpeace? Aren't they taking this up?
What's happening to Greenpeace?
They are in the Gulf now,doing research and trying their best to get some answers for the we the people.I'm sure BP and the government are doing their best to interfere with their efforts.
ns, I find it interesting to watch the ones in charge, all achievers, in their own right disclaim the independent Marine scientists that receive funding from them, through SeaGrant, and other interactions for research.
It just clearly the noaa PEW, EDF AGENDA is on course, and they ain't gonna let a little f$ucking oil in the water stop 'em, no matter what anybody says. Arrogant
And now comes the saddest part. The well has been declared dead and the whole Macondo Well things gets relegated to the inner pages of the news on it's way to becoming a small 10 line article ands forgotten. While all the time the environment keeps taking hit after hit from the oil and chemicals used to disperse the oil. All the time telling the scientists they have to ask permission to test the waters. Who the hell decided that you had to have a permit to sample water you thought might be unsafe? That's the most ignorant thing I ever heard. And then try to intimidate them by phone, is our government that intent on keeping the public in the dark? It looks to me like nyghtshayde was right once again, we are going to have to keep our eye on the money. This is one of the largest cover ups of our time.
I'm still thinkin BKs got it right, and if the oil keeps coming..........
bore
BKL has always managed to keep the collective finger right on the pulse of the problem. I love reading his posts they always have new information that I was not aware of.
ssooooooo did they kill the right well? they kill any well?! How do we know.
Lyin phucks.
BH & LArry
I have seen videos that are plotted >1000 ft south of Well A location. It is simple, they just changed the first 5 figures of N coord from 10,430,xxx to 10,432,xxx. That way when they want to know the real location they just replace the real "significant number" back. Again this is taken from one of the common programming trick in data processing. This is what I wrote earlier to one reader.
The first video - 1202492.12 10430532.41 plotted >1000 ft south of Well A. But the depth is only 4945ft (converted from metres). But if we go south, the depth should be deeper not shallower - That means BP must have fudged the coords. If you change the first 5 figures of N coord from 10430 to 10432 then you have the ROV plotted slightly North of S20BC. Note the ROV facing North (300 deg). This means that BP had cut the wellhead and fitted a top cap to the broken well. But if the oil is not coming out of the capped S20BC well, it is coming out thru the fault line. I think this is what we are seeing on the ROV now. They are also pumping in the corexit thru the well cap, that way the corexit mixes with the oil/gas, takes longer to come out. That's the reason for the bursts. The pressure needs to build up, over come the overburden pressure (water head plus the permeability factor). So S20BC is no longer an open hole. They were probably debating on whether an intercept with 15000 psi would seal or break the formation even further. More likely the later but they could not wait any more with so much oil now being reported. They are just going to declare victory and run off. Obama Admin will have no problem with that since the Nov election is coming close. It just mean things are much worse than we had earlier anticipated.
This was probably what they did - declare a hollow victory. So do not be fooled. This problem had not been tackled yet.
Their Plan A - to show Well A as the gushing well (since it was gushing anyway) then move the camera to Well B (they either pump crude stored at the surface vessel to the well head to show it was still leaking) to record the stopping of the leak while Relief Well C intercept the real gusher S20BC 714 ft North of Well A. As they pump cement into S20BC 18000ft below seabed, they slowly turn off the crude supply to Well B to dramatically dupe the world that the wild well had been "killed". That would have convinced even me - see the effect of the powerful magic show - that was what I was talking about in my earlier article in July.
Then Hurricane Bonie came and spoilt the show. My posting also came up on their magic show. S20BC was still gushing oil to the surface as strongly as ever. After I had put words out to check the coords as we could be looking at least 2 wells while I firm up my investigation on the 3rd well (S20BC), BP had to abandon Plan A of switching to Well B. Videos of the 2nd Well started to appear. Alex wrote to me saying that he did not believe the "switch-a-roo" theory and believed BP had drilled only one well. Days later he retracted after Dr Bea's interview with WB.
So BP was stuck with Well A and cannot execute Plan A. So plan B - they had to kill Well A which they had wanted to leave out till later. In trying to "kill well A" BP exposed even more evidence of wrong doing since the well had been drilled down to only 5000ft or slightly over.
Now this would be in my next posting. Stay tuned. They can fool some people some of the time but they cannot fool all the people all the time.
BK Lim
Are you still able to find a feed for the ROVs I have only been able to find one lately?
No Larry. I am researching on older videos on the You-tube. If you find interesting ones send the link to me. It can be time consuming watching all these videos especially if the internet connection is slow. TIA.
I was looking at one earlier but the compass reading looked wrong. It should have been in the 300s but seemed to be in the 270s. It was a fuzzy reading so maybe I got it wrong . I'll try and find it again for you,
BTW I just tried my last live feed and it's dead now.
BK Lim
Here are some that I stored earlier Sunday don't know how good they are as I haven't had time to look at them yet. Hope they help, they all come from NOLA.
http://videos.nola.com/times-picayune/2010/07/oil_spill_update_times-picayun_5.html
http://videos.nola.com/times-picayune/2010/06/oil_spill_video_how_it_looks_t.html
http://videos.nola.com/times-picayune/2010/05/oil_spill_video_bp_shows_rovs.html
http://videos.nola.com/times-picayune/2010/05/oil_spill_video_insertion_tube.html
http://videos.nola.com/times-picayune/2010/05/oil_spill_video_first_video_fr.html
http://videos.nola.com/times-picayune/2010/05/the_leak_up_close_oil_and_gas.html
http://videos.nola.com/times-picayune/2010/05/bp_video_capping_the_third_lea.html
http://videos.nola.com/times-picayune/2010/05/an_rov_shuts_off_one_leak_on_t.html
Great seed. This one seems more all encompassing than some of the other -- a good one to pass around to non-viners. Thanks.
#2 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:23 PM EDTStay on their arses nyght.
BTW-you know this could go on for a while, right?
#3 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:09 PM EDTThe One would never do that. The One promised that the planet would begin to heal. Maybe sinking all that oil will stop the oceans from rising. The One has a Plan.
#4 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:51 PM EDTSpirit, … While agreeing with your implication that our fearless leader has an overriding allegiance to his Harvard orchestrated agenda to promote corporate prosperity.
Does this mean that when given the political option of endorsing, bad (trickle down benefit designed for the many) or worse (overt benefit solely designed by and for the corporate few) are you suggesting America supports the economic suicide reelection of republican control?
comments like the spirit......... are incapable of seeing where their hatred will take us all.
or, paid shill.
Not many people think of how truly atrocious and disgusting and obscene the oil volcano caused by BP was (is?). Almost, no equally as beyond words was/is the way the American People were s$hat on by a multinational company (after they s$hat in our waters and effed the fish and the fishing). I think the story is even worse - but I wont on NV.
#5 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:33 PM EDTIm wondering how far these submerged masses have made it toward the Fla Straights... Atlantic Current...
#6 - Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:43 PM EDTDon said...
--- I DO INDEED MEAN TO BE VERY CYNICAL ABOUT ALL THIS. --- CAN we suppose (any of us who want to see past the debacle -to find a solution) that the millions of gallons of dispersants unceremoniously dumped into the Gulf of Mexico was an action -an experiment- thought-up, debated and approved-of -by a small cadre of environmental scientists?
I think we can.
The swarmy certified environmental-scientists have turned out to NOT be holier-than-thou, and-instead-rather nothing but another batty gaggle of incredibly insensitive scientists who think the world is theirs to run trial-and-error experiments on.
These certified environmental-scientists have turned out no less pernicious than would-be-medical-now-biology-students who end up disappointed and frustrated at the failure of their academic aspirations -and- genetic engineering graduates -working for Monsanto; or more-clearly-evil bio-weapons engineers working for the bio-weapons end of some rapacious, nasty and obscenely greedy pharmaceutical company.
(Yes, folks, that is who makes YOUR bio-weapons for YOUR swell UNCLE -Sam-, -YOUR pharmaceutical industry-. God! -I love them. No. I take none of that poison -myself. It wouldn't be right to defile my body with their crap.)
And these monk-hooded environmental scientists in sandals -are STILL looking for proactive solutions, -more crap they can dump into the Gulf of Mexico, -just to see if that makes the problem go away, or less noticeable in an until-AFTER-the-November-election-sort-of-way.
OMG! These environmental scientists are thinking in terms of saving the planet, over the short term? !-ONLY-! Yikes!!!!
Solutions... solutions... I must think of a solution.
Maybe shuttering the scientific universities would stop these vile pretenders?
Ah! No. No-no. That will never do. The GW Blog does not condone writing about the consummate efficacy of good-old-fashioned violence.
Don understands marine science that is agenda driven.
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